"They are in the hospital. Why is that confusing?"
In very low numbers, why is that confusing?
"That was only true at the very beginning. A vaccination is recommended now."
False information- natural immunity is still superior, and therefor barring from activities the vaccinated are permitted to engage in is unscientific and discriminatory.
"Verifying that health is the problem. People lie. So now we're going to send a couple million or more people to the doctor's office for a health passport?"
I don't what any controls whatsoever. I'm pointing out the unscientific nature of barring people with a vanquishing low risk just because they've been assigned to the unvaccinated group. Once-size-fits-all is not scientific, it's political.
"Scientists are in agreement. It's the politicians that are cancelling the mandates."
You've admitted the mandates are based on politics not science.
Catching and spreading covid isn't related to vaccine status.
Is it weird there are different policies in every country, yet they’re all based on sCiEnCe?
Nah
Have you been ignoring the official stats posted here on an ongoing basis for weeks on end showing similar ratios of vaxxed and unvaxxed in hospital?
What about young age groups having lower representation in hospital.
What about people with natural immunity, superior to that of the vax?
90% of the people hospitalized have comorbidities, what about unvaxxed people who are very healthy.
Why do you insist on treating unhealthy vaxxed people better than healthy unvaxxed. Let me guess sCiEnCe.
Vax doesn’t prevent spread. Repeat it in your head ten times.
I’ll go with the scientists in the countries that are cancelling the mandates.
obese, smokers, etc don’t strain the healthcare system?
I don’t know what left you with the impression your words could have the slightest effect on my “staying in my lane”, but since you’re giving me an instruction, allow me to provide you with one:
Go fuck yourself
“Durdurdur proof”
You’re the one who brought up proof of whatever not me, do you have Alzheimer’s?
Booster uptake is abysmally low.
Many restaurants you can pass right through without verification of the pass.
Most countries simply don’t have mandates and vax passes at all, others are eliminating them. I’ll follow their science.
It’s coming to an end whether you like it or not, and the harder the religious covidians buck the trend the worse it will be for them.
Bahahah I don’t have anything to prove to the likes of you, the purpose of my posts are to lay bare how much of an unethical hypocrit you are.
Where’s your proof you’re not being paid $0.06 per mental gymnastic shill post.
If you’re fit there’s less chance you’ll wind up in the hospital
But you’ll be clogging up the hospital.
You’ve already agreed that whether vaccinated or not you’ll pass covid to the staff.
Lose weight. It lowers the strain on the healthcare system. If you could lose weight but refuse then you are accepting the risk that you might wind up increasing the load on the healthcare system. It would be better for our healthcare system if your ability to eat high fat foods was restricted while there’s an obesity epidemic.
If you’re unvaccinated and;
-don’t have co-morbidities -have natural immunity -are young
You’re not the subset clogging the hospitals, so why would you be restricted?
Are you in favour of the BMI passport I floated?
Why are you still spreading the false information that the vax prevents the spread?
Edit: Oh I see you’ve finally conceded that point.
So explain how the the fact that covid is contagious undermines my comparison. Something tells me I won’t receive a reply.
Just pointing out the silliness
I no longer think of this as a left/right issue when we have Jeremy Corbyn and Andres Obrador for example staunchly against mandates.
Tell a far left loony they're responsible for their own obesity co-morbidity, and they'll blame the unvaccinated for being a burden on hospitals.
I want to know why your side is pushing the vax on children when the seasonal flu is more deadly for them.
Or why you’re forcing the vax on people with natural immunity. Let me guess natural immunity is a conspiracy theory.
And pregnant women.
Or why before covid when the hospitals were overrun by people with preventable health issues, measures were not taken against those people.
Uhhh you're going to need to post a source for the 99.9% stat you referenced.
Because when a scientist reports something a leftist disagrees with they are labeled as a not credible and removed from the discourse.
Becasue that's how low IQ leftists think science works
No I think you're incapable of deductive reasoning and independent thought.
You literally need to be told what to think.
So before covid when the system was overrun were the fat/smokers/drinkers/skiers overrepresented in the hospitals, or were they there in equal proportion to people who choose to follow healthcare advice?
Regardless I think we agree insofar that we both aren't in favor of universal healthcare. It should be private insurance, where people pay at least in part based on their personal choices. If you made the choice to be overweight, or drink, play dangerous sports etc you should pay more than someone who takes very good care of themselves. Maybe then we could have double the ICU capacity, comparable to the Americans.
But since the Canada Health Act is the law of the land, perhaps you can assist in parsing this section of the Act that was posted here yesterday:
"Universality
10 In order to satisfy the criterion respecting universality, the health care insurance plan of a province must entitle one hundred per cent of the insured persons of the province to the insured health services provided for by the plan on uniform terms and conditions."
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-6/page-1.html?txthl=health+canada+act
Haha funny now let’s see the same joke with fat people, smokers, drinkers, drug users, and other high risk personal decision preventable reasons who have been making terrible health choices for decades.
Oh wait most people fall under those categories… Scapegoat for government failure needs to be a small minority group who doesn’t vote liberal.. hmmmm…
The likely answer of course is he’s a shill getting paid $0.06 per post in an retarded attempt to convert us to the church of covid.
Preventable illness is the majority of health cost.
What you’re saying is the fatty/drinker/smoker/criminal/whoever who has been making shit health choices for decades is the victim, and the person who just wants to wait a few years before taking the 1 year old medicine is their oppressor.
In other words, it’s normal that people in hospitals are largely there due to bad choices.
Unvaxxed represent 10% of the population.
Canadian authorities always acknowledged there would be people unwilling to get the vaccine.
Why are they not prepared? Why are they not facing the blame?
South of the border there is vastly higher surge capacity. Why don’t we have that?
The vaccines don’t prevent the spread, covid is moving at an insane clip right now, and the system is still functioning.
This is literally the best case scenario, and in 10 or 15 years from now, when people are talking about how ridiculous the covid reaction was, people like you will nod along and smile.
I know this is when you start chanting “SCIENCE” and “SAFE AND EFFECTIVE”
I’m just going to admit that it’s a pretty dumb title, but the sentiment stands 😛
Continuing to perpetuate the unscientific political position that natural immunity isn’t superior to the vaccine.
We don’t trust your politicians who veil themselves in the cloak of science.
Is natural immunity science or not?
If it is how do you justify this comparison and these unethical measures against that group??